The Birth of Bulletproof For BJJ
(Explicit Language Warning!) In this episode Joey ( Joe Worthington) and JT ( James Tomlinson) give you the inside story on how they each discovered BJJ. How they met? What brought them to develop their individual approaches to training Jiu-jitsu practitioners? Then ultimately how they joined forces to create Bulletproof For BJJ!
Speaker 1: 0:04
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Speaker 2: 0:29
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the first ever Bulletproof for BJJ podcast. Well , um , I’m super hype. I’m trying to contain it. Um, just so that my enthusiasm doesn’t explode the levels on the computer, but actually the truth is Joe started Bulletproof for BJJ, and this is something that people may not know.
Speaker 3: 0:53
It’s true. It’s true. It’s journey is mine and I brought you along for the ride.
Speaker 2: 0:57
True. I’m just , uh , I’m just the backup dance . Um, so yeah, what I thought would be really good today, just for everybody who comes across Bulletproof for BJJ to understand , uh, where you’re coming from Joey and why you started Bulletproof for BJJ. Cool .
Speaker 3: 1:17
Yeah. So , um, I guess a little, yeah , a little background on me , uh, been training jets for , uh, 13, 12, 13 years. Um, I’m a Brown belt, got a few straps on that thing. Um, been up and down with it over the years had , uh , you know, had my initial Academy, got to, got to Brown belt with them. Wasn’t really enjoying it by the time I got there, you know, there just the , the politics and the , the , the, the climate in that gym and blah, blah, blah. Um, so when I got my Brown, I was kind of at the end of my tether, you could say it like, I’m just not enjoying going to training each night. And , um, at the same time I had just opened my first gym jungle brothers with , you know , two mates. And so there’d been this sort of thing where I was transitioning careers into being a personal trainer, opening a gym , um, got my Brown and was like, I’m out. I’m just going to focus on the business because really it’s, you know what it’s like, right. When you’re super busy with your work, it’s really hard to change it every evening as well and whatever. So , um , I took a big break and I focused on the gym and the gym was , um, strength and movement and mobility and all that stuff. And I , I, like, I went super deep on that stuff and it was really cool cause I had a couple of years where I was training like a Savage in that realm and it, it, it taught me a huge amount. Um, but there was always this connection to digit two and there was always a desire for me to get back to it. But I always had , I had friends in the game, you know, by the time you’re at like a higher belt, you got such a community around you, right? Whether it’s friends or acquaintances or people you doing business with, you know, they’re digital folk . So
Speaker 2: 2:53
It’s kind of like fight club. It’s just like a fire code . Right . You see a guy you’re working , you’re like nod , he’s got an old face. That’s my guy, Larry . Um, so in any case, I ,
Speaker 3: 3:05
I was like, well, there’s a real, there’s a real crossover here, what I’m doing in the gym and what I’m seeing with these two guys and what I know of my own experience would you do to it ? I can help these guys. And , um, the, it started with just this desire to do something, to help the digital community. So we at jungle brothers to your, and I decided to run a workshop that was called Bulletproof bodies for BJJ. And it was just a workshop and it was like, here’s a collection of the best we do in terms of strength, training and mobility, real simple stuff that we’re doing that you do to people at large don’t know about. Um , and so we invited everyone we knew and we ran this workshop and it was about 30 people there, mostly guys. Um , and that was the beginning of it.
Speaker 2: 3:49
Nice. Yeah. That’s so cool. Right, man. That’s, that’s, that’s really cool. I actually didn’t know that myself. So I’m learning right here right now. Um,
Speaker 3: 4:00
You’re doing something parallel at this time,
Speaker 2: 4:02
Right? Yeah. So, I mean, I think, I mean, I started to , to, to , what was it? Uh, it was like early March in say , uh , 2008. And even then, because I kind of, you know , had come from being a PT and having a strength conditioning background. I was so blown away at how little that was in the world of jujitsu. Like I would like start stretching at the end of class and people were like, what are you doing? It’s just like, shaming me. It’s just like, I don’t know, trying to work on with flexibility, man. Um, and then I try and kettlebells for about a year. By the time I came, she did too . And the craziest thing was like, I , it had made such a difference on me in one year because it’s so much great than so much core training. I was like, wow, coming from TaeKwonDo, I actually was pretty well prepped. It was kind of strange even. I’d just done lots of kicking and punching and couldn’t do any of it doing the kettlebell training had, had really changed my kind of, I guess, athletic profile. So fidgets, I was like, Oh, kettlebells is really good for jujitsu. And then there’s so many injuries. That’s the thing. I was just thinking everybody was super injured. And I got a lot of injuries too . Just being a super Kane , fluffy white belt, blue belt, just too hard. Of course. Uh , as you do it , just trained through them, right. You’re in your twenties. Well, I don’t know about train through them, but yeah, it definitely is like tape it, take the trucks , keep going. Yup . Um, and then going to Brazil and getting exposed to that because I’m like, Oh , this is the home of jujitsu . Right. But in truth at that time, like the training was like CrossFit wasn’t even a thing really then. No, but what I had noticed is, cause I’ve been to Brazil five times now that each time I’d go back to Brazil, people would be doing different training. And, but that said, no one was really saying, Hey, you need something, which is actually gonna like, unrack your body from jujitsu? Yup . Like guys are like, I do CrossFit. Cause cross it’s hard and it’s hard. So that works. But then guys were like tearing their hands. They were over-trained and they were getting more injuries when they were doing jujitsu. But because the mentality is that everyday pull harder and grind. And you know, even though that’s super admirable in terms of like having a tough mentality, it doesn’t speak to longevity or like being able to follow that path because it’s a pretty long path. Right. Like you and I have changed you to a similar amount of time, obviously under black belt, Joe’s Brown belt. We just established that early on. Uh,
Speaker 3: 6:35
Hey, Hey, Hey,
Speaker 2: 6:37
No privilege here. No got privilege here. But I’m enjoying should be a black belt, but he owns a gym. I own nothing because I’m a Buddhist,
Speaker 3: 6:45
But essentially , um, I’d give it all away in a heartbeat for a black belt. Couple of it . Just keep it . You’re going to get it. There’ll be there. You don’t need
Speaker 2: 6:55
It. All right. Sign over your gym to me right now.
Speaker 3: 6:59
Uh , we’ll do a trait . Uh , I think
Speaker 2: 7:01
What was interesting is cause we, we, I had people come to me and say, have you heard of this guy, this guy called Cho , then he’s your brother. He does kettlebell training and personal training. And like, man, he does jujitsu. He’s a blue belt. Do you know him? I’m like, no, I don’t .
Speaker 3: 7:16
I’ve never heard of this guy. He was this guy. And then , uh, I dunno , I think maybe there was a similar
Speaker 2: 7:22
Thing on your end . Maybe someone has
Speaker 3: 7:24
Heard of this dude . Totally. This , this guy. Yeah. People like man, you know that guy , um, J James Thompson from Melbourne and might , they’re like, man, he’s super into kettlebells . He’s a blue belt as well. He’s about your size. You guys look the same. I’m like. Um , how could anyone look like me? That’s what he looks handsome . Um, and yeah, and, and that kind of went on. There’s like a tale of this guy from Melbourne. And then I think, was it the pan PACS or was it a sissy cost ? Abu Dhabi. Trials of Adobe trials
Speaker 2: 7:57
Was actually a little bit of political background. That was when you , your friend from the dojo got his , he came back from Japan with a black belt and Paulo slapped him.
Speaker 3: 8:06
Aw , nah , I wasn’t there for that. Oh good . I think you got a mic y’all wasn’t there for the slap . Oh, okay. I was in Brazil at the time. Oh, okay. Cause I was at that camp that was like, Oh, it’s going down. It’s the closest you could get.
Speaker 2: 8:22
But like , uh , kind of backyard fights attitude .
Speaker 3: 8:25
Hang on a second. We’re not actually going to be fighting guys stuff. It’s just a sport . Just hug like strangle each other. Um, but yeah, I do remember it
Speaker 2: 8:34
Was at Sydney aquatic center. I believe where someone went, I think it was like Eric Mastro or it was somebody who said, Hey man, stay here. I’m going to go get Joe he’s
Speaker 3: 8:42
Here and went in, like
Speaker 2: 8:45
Grabbed you. And I kind of saw you walk over. And I was like, this guy, this
Speaker 3: 8:49
Is dude . And then it’s kind of like sometimes when
Speaker 2: 8:51
You see animals confront and mirror like
Speaker 3: 8:56
Flexing a little bit and not really sure. Anxious . Yeah . Ah , this face feels familiar. Oh God,
Speaker 2: 9:02
There’s a point of recognition. Like, okay ,
Speaker 3: 9:04
There’s a similarity here. It’s kind of , it’s a bit weird. No words were exchanged for a good five minutes. It was just smelling, observing. Yeah. Sort of flexing. Yeah .
Speaker 2: 9:14
Yeah. It’s interesting. Because I think for perennially, for a couple of years, we kind of had just met up. I’d come to jungle brothers when it was at the original location. Yeah . Um , you, when you were down in Melbourne, we kind of caught up for a beam in Vietnamese, Vietnamese of course. And uh, at this time Joey was trying to teach me to be more mindful. Um, yeah, actually we did something which was quite meaningful. It made me like Joe , there’s not a lot of things that make me like Joe, other than , uh, you know, his similarities to me. But uh, we went for maybe it was time just down from the old JB spot.
Speaker 3: 9:53
Ah . Yeah. And I was really in a rush . I mean, I was super
Speaker 2: 9:56
Caffeinated as always. And
Speaker 3: 9:58
JJ gets caffeinated ,
Speaker 2: 10:02
Uh , only, only a gram a day now. And um, we went to this restaurant and you said, no. I mean like as like, should we get takeaway ? Like I may have to go back to the blue mountains and go the airport and you’re like, no. And then I’m like, let’s, let’s sit down. Let’s let’s just take this time. And you, it was almost like a mindfulness practice. You’re like, let’s think about this food man. Like let’s smell it. And you did , and you did this . And I was like, wow, that’s, that’s exceptionally cool. That’s it was very memorable for me. It just sat in my mind. I was like, wow. Even though like, these are different things that I’ve worked on since, eh , within everyday life we don’t practice these things and it was great. And I was like, no, I could work with this guy.
Speaker 3: 10:44
I guess if you had to sort of Mark the time you would say that was the moment that I became the teacher and you became the student when we started training . You know? So I , I, you know, from that , they only called me sensei. Sure. We can, we can say that
Speaker 2: 11:06
I’ll make that concession right now. Uh, and then w we started dating , actually. I remember the first time we ever trained judges , it was a dojo and it was one of the hardest roles I ever had
Speaker 3: 11:18
Sweep the guy. I couldn’t submit the guy. I was like, is this what it’s like to fight myself? This terrible, good , this strong, flexible athletic guy. And it sucked. Cause I’m so used to having that
Speaker 2: 11:28
Advantage over people. I didn’t have that advantage. And I was like, this is
Speaker 3: 11:34
It’s hard. I think we still deal with that. Don’t we? Where it’s like, it’s catches you by surprise. You’re like, Oh , you suck. This usually works. Normally when I put someone’s hips there , they’re dying, but you’re comfortable. Ah , frustrating. So, but I, I feel like when I ,
Speaker 2: 11:47
I think about Bulletproof for BJJ and the problems that we’ve recognized in the community, we have similar views on how, what , what we can do. And I , I think I was the one, I think I was the one who said, Hey man, we’re doing similar things. We should collaborate. Like there would be a strength in us working on a thing. Yeah .
Speaker 3: 12:09
I remember you came to Sydney because JT was living in Melbourne and you were coming to see your parents live here out of town. And so you’d come to Sydney and I’d always be like, I’m going to be on Sydney in Sydney on this weekend. I’m out at the, you know, with mum and dad, but I’ll be able to catch up for like a few hours on this day. So we’re always just piecing together these little catch-ups usually around food, always around coffee. Um, and I remember we’re hanging out at, at Randwick, near my place. We’re in the walking through the park and you were like, yeah, bro, you’re doing mad things. I’m doing mad things. We need to collaborate on something. Yes . And I was like, yeah, a hundred percent. We’re trying to help the same community. We have the same message. How do we do it? And we sort of didn’t really know. We just knew we wanted to do some work together to help the community. Yeah .
Speaker 2: 12:53
I think of it as rappers forming a rap group , uh, something like that. Something very far cooler than our middle-class black boy upbringing . But , um, no, I think about it and because the thing is like we have different, we do have different links in different communities. I have Cuban Linx , Cuban only built for Cuban links where it is born. Uh, yeah. Like , uh , my community is Melbourne or shout out , um, you know, absolutely . And the main Melbourne Lacan jars, you heel hooking mother upper also Livia Giles . Congratulations to both of you. There’ll be
Speaker 3: 13:31
No baby child. Yeah. That’s guys . It’s awesome.
Speaker 2: 13:33
Beautiful thing. And yeah. And obviously Joe, having his strong connections in the , in Sydney scene with our powers combined, we are captain Bulletproof . Um, yeah. And I , I think I had made a decision when I turned 35 that I wanted to be less competitive and more collaborative. Cause I feel like there’s greatest strengths in that and I just could see what you were doing. And I was like, that’s really awesome. And also jungle brothers, and I’m so grateful to be here now, shout out jungle brothers for letting us use your mic equipment respect. Um, it’s always been the coolest gym I’ve ever closed gym I’ve ever been at. And the community here is amazing. So I kind of wanted to be a part of that as well as create a community because digital is a great community. But when you get injured, you feel alone. Like when your knee is hurt, you can’t go to jujitsu. You got to go to the physio, you know, you you’re in pain. And often when you’re in pain, you feel alone. And I mean, you’ve, you’ve had your own kind of, you know, ACL reconstruction and dealing with that. It’s a , it’s a confronting thing when you’re injured.
Speaker 3: 14:42
It is. And I think the, one of the , um, well, you know , maybe it’s I call it a floor. Uh it’s it’s not an intentional thing, but of the problems with the jujitsu world is that when someone gets injured the jiu-jitsu community. So let’s say like your gym, your coach, your team, they don’t know what the to do about it. So it’s like, I just keep showing up train light, or just do the technique or sit off to the side and watch there’s like these very general kind of, you know, lukewarm suggestions, but there’s no actual like, Hey man, let’s get you doing a rehab thing. Let’s like, let’s keep you connected with the community. Let’s give you like, let’s, let’s reduce the price of your membership and like, get you working in here outside of classes to fix your leg. Um, let’s, you know, let’s call you at six weeks to see if you’re ready to cut, like all these little things that are like , um , that a real community is like touching, touching base with you and sort of facilitating your, your repair doesn’t happen. So, I mean, I think the stats show, and I’m sure most people can identify with this. A lot of the time people get injured in jets and then they take some time off and then they never come back. Yes. And you , and then, you know, and the coach forgets about it because they’re busy coaching everyone. Else’s in their class, in front of them. There’s very little attention paid to that. So yeah. There’s like a , you really lose touch with the community when you, it .
Speaker 2: 16:00
Yeah. And I know for myself on my mental health drops and I get injured, cause then you can’t do the thing you love. Right. So then that, that has its negative effect . Not only the fact you’re in pain or you’re isolated, but the truth is so many people in the juicer community are getting injured. Yes. So you’re not alone. You’re actually part of the, part of the greater to the real club. Yeah, that’s right. The injury club. Right . And uh, I guess the thing that I had thought , um, which, which is really what Bulletproof is built on is being able to give those answers and give a path back because physios don’t know you’ve got a physio. You’re like I was upside down. I had my foot up around his. I was inverted. My arm was outstretched and he just sprawled on me and my back went snap, snap, snap. How do I fix myself? And the re you know , physio, it looks at you like, are you an alien? What’s wrong with you? Just stop doing whatever you’re doing. Now you do jujitsu. You’re like, no, I’m not, I’m not stopping. Just
Speaker 3: 17:01
Help me. And the F and the physio is trying to like fit that into their categorization of [inaudible] TaeKwonDo, Akita. Yeah. I’ve seen it. You do the thing . Yeah. I don’t know a life, you know, like they just don’t get that, that grind and that pressure and that, and just the, the amount of force that’s applied to the most random of positions that are completely , um, non-replica, replicatable replicable, you know, like it’s just so random, this whole thing that, unless they’ve done it, or they’ve watched it for a long time, they really got no idea.
Speaker 2: 17:33
You don’t get it. Yeah. And it’s very hard to find a digital savvy , uh, therapist , um, practitioner and, and look, there’s also a gray area and this is what I feel. Um, this is what we’ve worked on in the last kind of two and a half years, three years is the gray area between when you’ve had an injury or you’ve got a chronic thing that you haven’t fixed because we just being humans, just soldiering on and where you’re healthy and fit. And you’re , you’re more or less pain-free and you’re feeling good. And, and that gray area is recovery, but how do you go from like, not quite completely to back to healthy. And I , I think a lot of what I’ve seen in terms of what we’re doing in terms of prehab, we have, I mean, we’re not physiotherapists , but we know
Speaker 3: 18:20
We should be shocked. We so should be just hand me a degree. I mean, Craig Jones can get a yellow
Speaker 2: 18:25
Belt off , uh , you know, one throw in a tournament. I’ve rehabbed
Speaker 3: 18:28
A lot of people from injuries. Just give me a degree. What can I tell you? You got a judo yellow belt for that. So , yeah , I mean, Dante, Leon’s a hard guy to take down, but I mean, he’s kind of short. It was a mad hip task. Craig is very tall,
Speaker 2: 18:41
Very photogenic. Um, no, I just think having also been through my own process with , uh, physios and torn ligaments and, and also having to work it out for myself, I feel like what we can do is just go, Hey, let’s save you some time pike . Don’t do a whole lot of this. Don’t do a whole lot of that. Let’s just give you what will work for you and bring you back to a point where you can get back on the Mattson and start your path back to being healthy. And I guess that kind of brings us back to the Bulletproof kind of method or process because people always ask different questions and really it’s all about strength and mobility. And I guess I get to speak on that a little bit more Joseph .
Speaker 3: 19:26
Okay. Yeah. So, so strengthened mobility, two kind of specific things that we’re interested in. The big one that people ask about a lot in this sort of frame where I’m going with this people ask you about conditioning. Yes. Right. And everyone’s everyone, everyone said this somewhere , I just need more cardio. I need more gas. Right. And it’s like, because you finished around and you fatigued and gasping for air. And so the initial, like the connection is I’m fatigued. I’m gasping for air. I need a bigger gas tank, right . I can , it’s a simple formula to kind of see how people arrive at that. And the thing that we’re saying is like, well, what if you look at this from a different perspective, and that perspective is one of movement efficiency. And so what we’re talking about there is your ability to move through dynamic positions for a reasonable period of time. Let’s say you’re doing a six minute round. Now, the stronger, the more mobile, the more coordinated, the more agile you are, the less energy it takes you to navigate those movements over six, seven minutes. Right. But if you’ve got super tight hip flexes, your spine doesn’t work properly, your shoulders are. You can’t get up and off the ground without a huge amount of effort. Then that six or seven minutes is going to be really hard on you. Right. It’s going to cost you a lot of energy. And this is the thing for us is like, I mean, we dabble a bit of conditioning. I haven’t, I haven’t done any conditioning training for years now. Cause it’s not of interest to me. Jujitsu is my conditioning. Yes. In the gym. That’s where I work on my efficiency, getting stronger, getting more mobile. And that allows me to, to be , uh, to, to flow through. So I can still, I can still be a Savage when I have to be, be super explosive. But it also means I’m not like burning up needless energy for minutes on end. Right. The thing that we noticed with the majority of these jujitsu folk is that they just move like. Yes . They’re really good at when they’re on their back or when they’re, you know , like they have their jujitsu technique. That’s great, but they don’t have good body mechanics. They don’t, they’re not expressing full range of motion. They’re missing simple things like hip flexor mobility , uh , spinal rotation, their shoulders are super tight. So th the, the, the lowest hanging fruit, when we look at it, knowing what we know and with all the people we’ve worked with, the lowest hanging fruit is, well, let’s fix those glaring issues first. And then once there’s a , uh , an adequate amount of efficiency, alright . And then we can start to work on the gas tank or whatever. But I think people notice by the time, Oh, man, I’m moving so much better. I feel fitter on the mat already. That’s not even a consideration anymore.
Speaker 2: 22:02
Yeah. And I think also the thing, there’s a couple of elements here. I’m , I’m with you 100% on all those things. Pain is a neural inhibitor. So you can’t, if you’re in pain, you can’t be strong. Like that’s your body blocking your ability to use your nervous system. And a lot of jujitsu folk are in pain, but we just grin and bear it. Right. Cause like that’s jujitsu, that’s the mentality. But in truth, if you can take the handbrake off, which is pain, someone will be stronger and they don’t have to lift any weights. You’ve just freed them up. Like, I think it was a funny thing with kind of isolation, people stop training trajectory for a couple of months, be like feeling dang. I feel good for COVID injuries have healed up. Yeah, man. I’m so healed. So strange slept last week for the first time. Amazing. But I , I think , um, relative to that idea of efficiency , uh , strength is a much greater component of , um , jujitsu then people probably account for, and we all know that feeling when you, when you’re rolling someone who’s about your size, but they’ve far stronger than you. You’re like, I can’t do anything like that. Isometric strength is a much bigger component of grappling. Then say strengthened Durance is safe or boxing or other, other combat sports. Yeah . And then also we all know, it’s like to roll someone who’s super flexible. They can get the guard from anywhere. You’re like bending their arm inside out. They’re not tapping. You’re like, what is going on here? There’s no restrictions . So they, they just they’re moving exceptionally well. The combination of both those things, if you’ve got someone who’s strong and flexible, that’s like a jujitsu nightmare. It’s the worst. It’s the hardest thing to deal with. And , and I think if we look at this more from the perspective of somebody who’s, who’s like, Oh , I do. If we can add a degree of strength and movement efficiency, digital life gets easier. Yes . Not only can you control you better, you can control your opponent better. And also when you’re more flexible, you’ve got more to play with. You’re not getting, you’re not tapping off bad posture. That’s right. You haven’t got bench, press posture and you’re , you’re comparing yourself. You know, you can move out of things. You , and , and also it acts as the process. I feel because this is the thing that w you know, dealing with the Bulletproof BJ community and , and all our, our, our lovely people on the program, shout out to all our Bulletproof BJJ crew. Um, people are saying, I feel better. I can actually train more. And actually we’ve had select some pretty good weight loss stories, because people were just able to train more jujitsu , which meant they burnt more energy and then lost weight. Yeah . So that’s, that was never a goal, but that wasn’t a full side product.
Speaker 3: 24:42
It’s a great site for that . Yeah. I mean, you know, I like to think of like , um, uh , you think of the human body, you think of someone that’s really tight through their major joints, your joints are really your , the hinges that laid a move. So if you can only express, let’s say 50% of, of , of the range of motion in particular joint. Yeah . You’ve essentially reduce your movement capacity by 50%. Yes. Right. And if you look at pro bodybuilders, they’re a great example of this. It’s, it’s, there’s, there’s a lot of like , um, interesting little stories about what happens to them in later life, because they train themselves into this rigidity, right. Part of their specialization in that spot. But the, what happens in the end is you actually become a prisoner of your own body. You can’t move, that’s, it you’re locked in behind all this muscle. And, and, you know , um , and I’m not saying that there’s a correlation necessarily training , building muscle and getting tight. But for those guys, there is so for jujitsu folks, it’s like all these benefits cascade out of them becoming stronger and more mobile. It’s like weight, loss, energy, better sleep, better moving on the mat, but a gas tank, like it’s like purely by focusing on a couple of high level things. Right. You get all this stuff. Yeah . It flows down. Whereas if we’re all just like smashing you with cardio. Sure. Maybe you’re gonna get a little bit fitter. Maybe you gain 5% capacity there.
Speaker 2: 25:56
No less likely to get injured. Like , you know , if not more, and it’s not going to give you
Speaker 3: 26:00
Any other benefits. No , it’s going to help that one little thing. A small degree.
Speaker 2: 26:03
Yeah. It doesn’t have the crossover. Yeah. No , I feel that. And I guess that’s where that Joe, Joe came up with the hashtag Sunday’s pour harder, which I think is very apt because really we’re not asking people to do a lot more. We’re just asking people to do enough. We’re not saying be a . No, not at all. Not, not in the slightest. I think it’s more around the idea that you see a lot of people, you know, come off the mat and they’re like throw a gay over a chin-up bar and just do some gay chin-ups . But ask yourself, like, that’s actually not the best thing you need to do straight after training. You probably need to just do some stretches. If you want to come in the next day and do it all over again, you need to look after your rig. Like we’ve got to do body maintenance. And I feel like that’s, that’s in the fine print. Like no one says, Hey, you want to do this marshal up. Look, you’re going to suck for at least five years contracted only six major injuries. And you’re probably still not going to be very good and all that stretch every day. No, one’s signing up for that. And then if someone also said, Oh yeah, by the way, you also have to do a subsequent amount of like two to five hours, body maintenance a day, like a week. Also people wouldn’t necessarily sign up for that. But once you’re in, you’re part of the jiu-jitsu Colt and you want it, and you’re on the path to black belt. We all want to see everybody get there, but we don’t want everyone to be a crippled old, you know, sensei guy who can’t do any, like get the black belt and then can’t do anything
Speaker 3: 27:26
Black belt model. This is, you know , the simplest thing you can do is look at your peers in your class. Look at the older guys and girls who’ve been on the mat for a long time. Usually you got a black belt or a Brown belt or something like that and ask yourself, do they have the kind of body mechanics that I wish I could have? And I can guarantee you the vast majority of them, you will say, no , I don’t want to end up like ,
Speaker 2: 27:46
Yeah, I don’t want to move. Like my grandpa went on 35,
Speaker 3: 27:50
My bro, we’ve uh, we’re approaching end point. Cool. Tell me , uh , tell me, tell me any final thoughts.
Speaker 2: 27:58
Well, I’m excited because we’re going to be doing this , uh, so much more often. And , uh, anyone who wants to kind of get on board with Bulletproof and is hearing this , uh, can go to our Instagram at Bulletproof for BJJ on Instagram, but then also if people want to check us out online and really hear what goes behind it and have a look at our program and how they can benefit from it , uh, go to www.bulletproofforbjj.com . And then yeah, look forward to more of this. Also, if you just want to reach out to Joey or myself, we’re very accessible. Um, you can find me on Facebook, James tenacity, Tomlinson, and , uh, UJ bone.
Speaker 3: 28:38
Find me on Instagram at JB, Joey J B J O E Y. Yeah , but I also, we run the Instagram account so you can get out of, through that , um, on our website, take a free trial of the program. If you want to sign up, use the code Bulletproof 10 and you’ll get yourself 10% discount as well. Nice.
Speaker 2: 28:58
All right . Awesome. Well, I’m very much looking forward to doing this again and getting into more subject Matt on how we can help. Y’all be more Bulletproof. Thanks for listening guys. Tuesday too .
Speaker 1: 29:15