#14 Body Weight vs Barbell – What is Better For BJJ?
On today’s show JT & Joey delve into the great debate, What is better for BJJ Body Weight VS Barbell! There are particularly strong views from either side of the argument for which is better to develop strength. The boys break down the pros and cons of both approaches and discuss how you can make the most of both Body Weight & Barbell to maximise your athleticism for Jiu-jitsu.
Whether you aspire to have a phenomenal handstand/ muscle up, OR a Huge maximal deadlift this discussion will help you know where to start and how to navigate toward getting great results faster without it detracting from your BJJ.
Speaker 1: 0:05
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Speaker 2: 0:17
So we pretty much flow with the goal
Speaker 1: 0:22
Who was worthy to be trusted with the secret to limit the spot. I’m ready, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another Bulletproof for BJJ podcast.
Speaker 3: 0:34
And today the question is, is barbell or bodyweight better for BJJ? Ooh , this, this, yeah, this debate. It’s interesting. Cause um , one of our guys here at the gym was , uh, was , uh, discussing this with me, said what’s better. Cause I was doing dead lifts and then looked over. Obviously Joe is , uh , quite proficient on rings. So does this better? Is that better? And the answer is complicated. My friends and we are going to dig in today. So let’s examine those elements. Joe let’s look at bodyweight and let’s look at barbell . There are pros and cons for both.
Speaker 4: 1:11
All right . Yeah. So I guess body weight , we’re talking like calisthenics gymnastics type stuff, right? Yes, indeed. Um, and then barbell, we’re talking any kind of barbell strength, training, whatever that is, whether it’s power lifting base , Olympic lifting, just, you know , whatever bodybuilding type stuff with a bar. Um, okay, well, should we rip into , uh , let’s discuss the bodyweight piece? Yeah, definitely. Well actually let us just frame this conversation with the combination is what we like most. Yes, the preference, what we prefer
Speaker 3: 1:42
A Bulletproof is a successful combination of both , um, because they are, they both are great tools that give you different outcomes. Uh , but they both, as much as they have their pros, they have their cons. And so I think what we want to get clear today is what, what pros are there? What cons are there and how that applies to you, the listener. So if you don’t have barbells, what are you gonna do? Uh , if you, if you don’t know what to do and you do have some equipment, what are you going to go there and how we can make the most of this to improve your BJJ? What’s that look like? So being the bodyweight master Josep, when we are the hand, his hand, his race, his acknowledged , um, what do you feel is the greatest pro of being able to just do some body weight exercises?
Speaker 4: 2:30
So a couple of things , sort of top of the dome , um, the convenience of body weight , strength training cannot be overstated, right? If you’ve got, you know , a basic level of proficiency and you can execute the movements, well, you can show up to the park, do a great workout. You can hang some rings up over a tree branch, get a bunch of really good upper body strength done. Um, you know, it allows you to do a lot with little yes, that’s, that’s the , that’s the first piece. Um, another benefit for me is that it gives you great variety in the choices of exercises and we’ll , I guess we can go into why that occurs, but , um, you know, beyond the typical bodyweight squat, push-up kind of chin up thing that you might see in like a standard kind of , uh , calisthenic sort of routine. Um, once you know, some of these more obscure gymnastic, progressions , uh , mobility, drills , um, different ways of, of strengthening the upper body, working on the rings, et cetera, you can, there’s so much variety to the stuff you can work on. Yes.
Speaker 3: 3:31
And , um, I guess the thing I would say too , um, when we’re comparing and contrasting , um , some of the strongest people in the world should do barbell stuff, but then also when we look at an Olympic gymnast, you would, you’d be hard pressed to find like, you look at a ring’s routine, you you’d be hard pressed to find anybody relative to their body weight who has that level of strength. Like that’s just, you know, it’s a , it’s a remarkable, it’s crazy. It’s crazy. And , uh, but this is why I’d say, you know, there’s people out there who can deadlift, you know, like Eddie hall, for example, 500 kilos. I question as to whether or not that man could do a muscle up , I really questioned that. And I just, I feel like that’s seriously lacking. Obviously that’s not his, he
Speaker 2: 4:17
Probably could have all fried .
Speaker 3: 4:22
I don’t think he could get over his belly.
Speaker 2: 4:24
I just said that you get these kind of lean these days though. I think. Well, for, for, for boxing, because he’s, he’s transitioning out of wealth strongest man. Right. So,
Speaker 4: 4:32
But, but yeah, but I mean, I hear what you’re saying, like the standard, like strong man kind of big, strong sort of powerlifter approach. Yes. They’re going to have a real hard time manipulating themselves around a pair of gymnastic rings.
Speaker 3: 4:45
That’s right. That’s right. Because they’ve trained to have certain levels of inflexibility, but when we’re talking about BJJ, you gotta be strong, but you also gotta have that flexibility. And I feel like that’s definitely the drawback of more conventional training, which, you know, th the advantage in the skill and the coordination in, in bodyweight is , um, these are movements that , uh , you, you will find in jujitsu to have that flexibility and have that strength.
Speaker 4: 5:11
It’s true. I think I’m just on that. There’s the, the variety of exercises and the fact that, you know, it’s hands on the ground, it’s hands on the bar, and then it’s manipulating your body around that fixed object. There’s like a coordination and a skill development that comes from that, that you can’t replicate with barbell strength training, because barbel strengths are in different , right. You are , you are moving the bar. Yes . It’s a closed chain action. It’s you ? No ,
Speaker 2: 5:40
It’s open chain. Well, it D it just depends
Speaker 3: 5:42
Hands on the movement. Right? Like we won’t go super hard into that guys, if you have no idea about close chain, open chain movement , that’s okay. But you’re right, Joe, in saying that it’s it’s and that’s, this is true . And you do to a lot of the body weight work is about how control your own body, which is referred to as relative strengths. And there’s a lot of people out there who say they’re strong, but their wealth , their relative strength is not so good. Their power to weight ratio is crap. Yeah . And , um, yeah, that’s where body weight is really good, but maybe we can without, we’re not rubbishing it, but let’s talk about maybe the downsides
Speaker 4: 6:15
Always downsides. Right. And , and , and, you know, I guess important to say, like any type of training has downsides, which is why we think that a combination of methodologies is really what produces the best outcome, because you’re , you’re helping to reduce the potential downsides and increase the upside.
Speaker 3: 6:34
Yeah. And , and broadening your exposure. I think that’s the thing like in jujitsu, even though they don’t tell you, you’re going to get exposed to a lot of crazy stuff, a lot of crazy movements movements you’re not familiar with and they’ll get loaded by another person’s body. That’s right. Which is some crazy business. I, when I look at, because I’m, I guess traditionally in my, my training, I did a lot more barbell kettlebell dumbbell lifting in my life. And then in more recent years, I’ve done more body weight training. Um, so it’s not a bias. It’s just, that’s more where my skillset lies. So I , I just understand the different principles around doing that. And I admit, I was just saying before, just before we started recording, I’m much better with my feet on the ground.
Speaker 2: 7:20
If my feet are on the ground, if you’ve seen this guy’s tree, trunk, legs, you know exactly what you’re talking about, my roots , biggest legs I’ve ever slept , the joints and everything. I think it was a , a product
Speaker 3: 7:32
Of one being a chubby kid. So there was a bit of loading from a young age and a little bit of genetics. My mum has the thickest legs going around . So there’s, there’s, there’s some genetic advantages as well as some lifting. But that said , um, I, I admire the skill of body weight , but I see a lot of people out there who don’t know what they’re doing, doing some very crappy versions of what body weight training should be. And , and you would , you would have seen that yourself, Joe . Yeah.
Speaker 4: 7:59
Yeah. Great observation. I think , um, body weight training is hard, right? Like we touched on, there’s a greater level of skill and coordination that comes from, from doing it. Uh, the trade-off there is that if you don’t know how to do it properly, like you haven’t been coached, there’s a high chance that you’re gonna it up. Yeah. Oh yeah. And I mean, you only have to look at pretty much every jiu-jitsu academy I’ve ever been into when they have pushups in the warmup and it is like, it is, it is like , uh , yeah , I don’t mean to make fun of that word, but no, no, no. It’s like, it’s a re you know , it’s like our guys, this is we , we can do better than this, but it’s this thing with bodyweight training where we, where we believe that it’s kind of inherently built into us. Yes . It’s like, everyone thinks I know how to do a pushup or sit up on how to do a pull up. I know how to run. And it’s like, no, unless you’ve had coaching on that stuff, you actually don’t. That’s right. So like body weight, strength, training, calisthenics gets used in warmups all the time and it just gets mutilated. Yep . Um, so the, the downside there is that yeah . If someone’s ever taught you how to do it, chances are you probably not doing a particularly well struggle and that’s going to cause issues of its own, right? Like if you don’t know what to do with your shoulders, and you’re doing bad pushups and bad pull-ups you are going to create imbalances in your shoulder joint.
Speaker 3: 9:20
Correct. And , and the other thing I was going to say on that is sometimes , um, how do we go from, I can’t do a pull-up to being able to do a pull up. People don’t necessarily know the progressions regressions, you know, they see someone do 10 pull-ups and they’re like, oh , it can’t be that hard. And then they try and they struggled to get one. How do you bridge that gap? That’s where I feel like even though , uh , body weight training, Calsonic training doesn’t require equipment, which is great. It requires a lot more knowledge and skill. And if you don’t have that knowledge and skill, it’s hard to progress.
Speaker 4: 9:55
Yeah. Let’s, let’s break that down a step further. Like the comparison there is, if you’re training with a barbell, anyone can lift a barbell, you just make it lighter for the newer individual, or you make it heavier for the stronger individual . So it’s very simple to progress it. The movement doesn’t change with body weight , strength, training, your body weight is fixed. So you can’t just take a given movement variation and really adjust it. You can a little bit maybe put feet on the ground or get someone to spot you. But essentially you’ve got to know a different variation. That’s going to move you towards where you’re trying to go. Yes. So, yeah . So what JT is saying is like, okay , I’m trying to work on the pull-up, but I’m not there yet. I’m down here. What are the 2, 3, 7, 10 steps in between that’s like 10 different exercises you need to know in order to get to that place. Right.
Speaker 3: 10:43
Yeah. And I think that’s where I’m seeking expert advice around these things. And the great thing is, you know , this guy , um, there’s a lot more us. Well,
Speaker 2: 10:53
Yeah. I mean , I know a little bit, but , um,
Speaker 3: 10:57
I think definitely I’m, I’m happy to admit, Joe knows a lot more around bodyweight progressions than I do for a lot of movements. Um, and that’s fine. I , I have, I have no problem in that and I’m still learning a lot. So I’m , I’m happy to be learning that stuff. Let’s switch over to barbell and talk about where does barbell fit in? Why is it good? How does it help BJ players? Um, I just wanted to add
Speaker 4: 11:22
One con yes . For body weight as well . Another one, which is the lack of lower body development. Well , I think this leads in well, so yes. So, okay. So the , the good stuff about barbell strength training. Yeah , man, it allows you to access a level of load or intensity through foundational movement patterns. So take the squat or the deadlift , and you can put heaps of white on it and you can execute quality reps. Well, if you’re doing it well , um, no other tool allows you to do you can’t, you can’t put double your body weight into really a pistol squat. I could do it . You know, maybe you can, but it’s very, very hard. It’s very challenging to do that . But a barbell allows you to do that. We have squat racks. We have, you know, it’s like this it’s, this it’s like a machine, right? It’s like squat stands with racks. You put this bar on it, put these plates kind of weird when you think about it, like this technology we’ve created, but it allows you to put double your body weight or body weight or whatever onto your back, and then do certain movements that are very basic movements. And that gets you really strong. Yes.
Speaker 3: 12:31
And I think that’s the thing. When we talk about body weight is great for relative strength relevant to your body. Weight. A barbell is great for maximal strengths and this is coming from people way smarter than me. Um, I think , uh , it was Charles Poliquin said, you know, he , um, he, wasn’t a big fan of kettlebells, but that’s all right. Charles is bodybuilder at heart . Um , until his heart failed from too many steroids.
Speaker 5: 12:54
Oh, sorry .
Speaker 3: 12:57
ROP . Um, no respect to Charles. Paul Quinn is smart guy. He felt that , uh, the CA the kettlebell is like one of the earliest training tools. He felt the dumbbell was a progression. Like it was an evolution. He, because he was all about hypertrophy and muscle growth. He thought dumbbells were best for hypertrophy, but barbells were best and maximum strengths . And he outlined Weiner in a series of different ways. And so even know , um, that’s there that ability to get better sooner. So if someone really sucks at the lift, you go, okay, let’s just start with a broomstick. And he learned this basic skill learned that basic coordination in , in a very short period of time, 30 minutes an hour, someone can really nail their deadlift and squat technique, but handstand men , that’s gonna , it’s taken more than half an hour, 40 minutes. You’re going to be that’s, you know, months of work. Yeah. The skill
Speaker 4: 13:53
Curve is much greater. Yeah. So there’s a huge mobility factor with body weight training, right? Yes . Like if you, if you’ve got tight wrists , like the standard jujitsu player, yes. You probably, aren’t going to be able to really do any effective handstand training until you get your wrist more mobile, which for some people could take months. Right. Whereas everyone can deadlift today. Yes. Maybe we elevate, like, if you really tight, maybe we elevate the bar a little bit. So it’s like, you’re not going all the way to the ground for ranger . Um, maybe you really wakes out to the broomstick, but there’s, there’s ways to get, like, we’ve got a class for the people. All right. Everyone’s doing deadlifts great.
Speaker 3: 14:31
Yeah. Working on that hinge pattern. Yes. And, and squat can be varied in so many ways, but if we’re relating to a barbell squat , um, you know, some people struggled to have that bar on their back. Um , and we will talk about the downside in a second. But what was going to say is if somebody, if you’re out there and you’ve never been into the gym in order to gym person, you don’t really like lifting weights, but you, you feel, you need to, you feel like you’ve hit a point. All right . And that’s enough. Money’s a saw, I want to get stronger. The reason why we are , you know, you’ll hear us talk so much about hindering, pushing, pulling, squatting, these different things. These things are high leverage. You get better at them. Your body gets better. Your nervous system gets better. This translates to many other things. The reason why we don’t talk about machines, sitting down bicep curls, or these things, they don’t translate. Like we want to train and movements, not individual muscles. So even with a barbell, you can get more coordinated. There is , there is a degree of coordination in deadlift , a hundred percent. And if we take it to a limpic lifting, which is that next step up, and you told me about her power clean or an Olympic cleaner snatch, clean and jerk, these things are very highly skilled,
Speaker 4: 15:46
Highly skilled . Yeah . Um, and I guess probably for, you know, the scope of this conversation, we’re kind of keeping like Olympic weightlifting outside side a little bit. Yeah. Because, because it is very niche and I, you know, it’s not, it’s not something that we say we don’t do it in really, really in our training. We might around that every now and again, but it’s not in our program. And that’s just because it’s not , um, the, the benefits of doing it are not such that the skill curve is worth it. Yeah. And , but , but we’re like, okay, foundational barbell stuff, squatting, pulling, hindering , et cetera, pressing , coupled with foundational bodyweight stuff, man. That’s , that’s the potent combination, super high level . And people can access it, you know, right away. Yeah.
Speaker 3: 16:28
And that’s the thing. You can also monitor your progress. So one week, you know, you’re , you’re looking at, you know, three sets of eight and then the next week you’re like, oh, I just hit three sets of 12. I’m feeling stronger. Cool. Okay. I can put five more kilos, two more kilos on the bar and that’s safe. As long as your technique is good, that’s quite safe. And so it’s very easy to progress in that way. Just chip away at your weight. It’s very obvious. Whereas when you do a handstand, if your quality is going down and you don’t have someone there going, oh man, your line’s out, or, you know, you need to , you need to look down, blah, blah, blah. If you’re not getting that feedback, it’s hard to tell when you’re getting better. So I think from a more nuanced, yes, that early access stage , um, people can get greater satisfaction of like kind of attainment and improvement through just gradually improving the weight or gradually upping their reps. And that’s where the that’s actually a pro in, from my perspective in barbell
Speaker 4: 17:23
Training. I totally agree. I think too, like if we take, if you take someone that’s relatively inexperienced in their training, so say, you know, let’s say it’s a jujitsu person. Um, they’ve done a couple of years of jets, but never really messed around much in the gym. If we take that person. And you’re like, Hey, here’s, you know, some really complex bodyweight skills we’re moving towards. And even developing like simple pushing exercises, like pushups into dips, ring, dips, whatever. Um, there’s going to be a period of like that. Person’s going to have to suck it , those exercises. Yes . Probably because they’re going to have mobility issues. They’re going to have like lack of a body awareness because they haven’t really ever worked on this sort of stuff. So all of that equals them kind of sucking it , those exercises for a little while. Whereas going back to that idea of, we can deadlift today, we can like lunge or squat today that person can get kind of like maximum satisfaction from those exercises. I can go home and go, oh man, my quads is so sore. My hamstrings are so sore. Yeah . They don’t have to face this arm. Just shoot that
Speaker 2: 18:27
Exercise. It’s like , nah , I was actually pretty good at those exercises.
Speaker 4: 18:31
And you could, you could, you could argue. And I would that , uh, for someone who’s coming into the, the strength and mobility realm, you don’t want to put them off with like really hard stuff that they have to suck out straight off the bat. I agree. A little bit of that is fine. Right. But there’s gotta be some in there. They’re like, oh , I did pretty good at that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: 18:49
And I think it’s true digital as well, like a human learning behavior. You’ve got to feel like you have a degree of , um, obviously you recognize this is not what I know, but you feel like you learned something and you felt like there’s a degree of progress attainment. Well , however small that might be. And I , I believe it is easier with barbells then somebody weight movements, but there’s a problem with barbell work because it is a bit too deep. It’s a bit linear , uh , because there’s plenty of people out there. You see them, you know, say classic kind of movement. Like not necessarily CrossFit , but people who just do barbell training powerlifters , you put them off kilter, are you getting to do rotation? And they suck, you get them out of that 2d mode. And they struggle. And jujitsu is 3d for deeds. It’s , it’s all over the place. And I believe just from my own experience when I’ve spent too much time doing barbell work and just getting into the powerlifter mode, squat bench dead , um, actually my jujitsu starts to go down because I don’t move as well. I’m not, I’m just not as dynamic. And I become more static on the mat and then I’m getting out positioned. I show that I’m strong enough to just hold someone there, but that’s not good jujitsu. Like that’s just me being that stall guy, which is me at my worst. Um, but then that’s why definitely, you know, the way we’ve made the bullet proof for BJ program is to be able to get the best of both worlds.
Speaker 4: 20:20
Yeah. The , um, I guess, yeah, for people who maybe can’t, who sort of can’t visualize that, that sort of linear aspect of traditional barbell strength training , uh , think about when you’re doing back squats, you like you plant your feet, shoulder width or thereabouts, and then you go up and down, right? And then you think about deadlifts and you plant your feet and you grab the bar and then you go up and down and then bench press your line and bench grip the bar and you go up and down and it’s, and these are like, you will get strong through those foundational movement patterns. Your joints will , uh , get great benefit from that. But if that’s all you do, like JT said, as soon as you get taken outside of that, up and down position, like I know you’re balancing on my legs , someone stuffing your head, your shot on a single or something. And you know, it’s like, you’re not prepared for that. Like you’re . So we have to see that stuff as good for building a base, but then we have to do stuff that prepares us outside of that. That’s where the combination really comes into play. That’s where kettlebells come into play too. Right? Single sided uni , lateral staff , um, you know, whatever it is, Bulgarian split squats or Turkish get-ups or single arm rows. Now we’re starting to bring in a little bit of this, like left, loaded, right? Loaded bit of rotation, bit of hindering aspect to it. And that is really that combination is what rounds it out nicely. So if you are just doing the barbell stuff, chances are you are missing out on that.
Speaker 3: 21:46
Yeah, definitely. And , and look guys, I don’t, I think this is where there’s a misconception because people go, oh, well, I’ve got to just choose one or the other and that’s not true at all. Like you, yes, it’s good to learn and fundamentally understand each individually, but really the best workout you can get is knowing the right tool for the job. So if you are trying to strengthen your hamstrings, strengthen your glutes, strengthen your lower back because that’s a weight point, then variations on a hinge motion, whether it is a deadlift or it is a kettlebell swing, or it’s a Jefferson curl or whatever that is that you need that external load. And you need to get into that to really build that because that’s something that, you know, just doing body weight is possibly not going to be enough. But on the flip side, if you’re really trying to get that , uh , strong shoulders, mobile shoulders, you know, a skin, the cat is an amazing movement and being able to load your shoulders , uh, not just through the inner, in a linear way as an I push forward, I pull back, but through a rotational range of motion, like full range, that that’s something that you really can’t find doing traditional barbell moves . You are going to have to go to the rings. You are going to have to hang upside down. That’s to get there . I think
Speaker 4: 23:04
A lot of the, I think a lot of the dogma around , um, I do barbell strength training, or I’m a bodyweight guy , um, is I think a lot of that comes from the places where we learn these skills. Yes . So it’s like, you know, you might have seen say you might’ve seen Jon Jones doing his power lifting some years ago and think, oh, I should do some of that. It’s going to make me a better athlete. So, you know, you seek out like a place nearby your house and it’s powerlifting gym and you go in there and it’s a great crew, great coach. Yeah. We lift barbells. Cool. That’s what I’m here for before long. Like, or not before long you’re in there. And it’s like, where’s your squat at? Where’s your dead lifting ? What are you getting ? Those numbers are ? And you’re like, it again . An extra day at training is I to get those numbers up. And then it’s like six months in and you’re like, oh. I just got to keep squatting. And then before, you know, it you’re acting like a power lifter. Yeah . Right. And that’s, that’s how powerlifters act. It’s the same as when you go to a jujitsu academy , um, that’s how jujitsu players act, right? Like there’s this, there’s these cultures. And so one of the problems is, is that we get sucked into that culture and that dogma , um, and you know, and then, and , and, and that’s great because you do learn the ins and outs of these things, but you miss out on the well-roundedness. Yeah.
Speaker 3: 24:19
And , and a great quote from Seth Goden . Also shout, shout out to Johnny ,
Speaker 4: 24:24
Seth Rogan , anything he says, I’m around it.
Speaker 3: 24:29
Forget you, man. Uh, John Marsh, shout out , um, people like us do things like this. Uh, yeah , that’s, that’s kinda , that’s the quote and it’s that identification, that tribe thing. And what, I guess, if you’re listening to us now and we speak to you and you’re thinking about joining our tribe, we would say, guys, understand the value and everything. You’ve got to have the right tool for the job. And there was a time when I used to just be obsessed with kettlebells. Like I thought, nah , nothing’s better than this. You can’t change my mind. And then I just did a bunch of reading about different literature and different science around strength development. And it made me go, actually, there is a limit on this. And then after a while, like I kind of got less emotionally attached to it. And I was like, right. It is good for certain things, but then there’s all this other stuff, which is good too. And so I’ve just got to identify what I’m trying to improve and then find the most efficient way to do that. And sometimes it doesn’t require weight at all. It just requires you to better control your own body. So, I mean, if we bring this to thinking about how does this apply, how do we decode all this stuff and make it applicable to you guys? This is what I have learned from my having been in the gym since I was about 12 years old and having made the mistake of doing too much of one thing and not enough of the other, I in each session will have an objective, whatever it might be, whether it’s my major movement pattern, whether it’s a hinge or a squat, and there will be movements around that. The compliment that now, if you can’t do a pistol loading up a heavy back squat to 90 degrees, won’t necessarily help you do a pistol. But if you improve your pistol squat, that actually will give you mobility and transfer that will actually improve your loaded back squat. So that sounds, sounds strange. Doesn’t it? What I’d say is that it is more intense to do a heavy back barbell squat. It is more skillful to do a pistol. So when we’re putting together your workouts, we always try to in the programming, put the big rocks first, put, put the hardest thing first. So that even though, you know, we want you to be prepared for your workout and do all these things, we want to make sure that you’re getting maximum for your buck and that within a full workout, you are getting stronger, but you’re also getting more skillful. And, and that’s what I try to do. Even if I’ve got like, I know I’ve only got half an hour, I had to get my workout in, I’ll pick three movements and I’ll make sure that they are covering all my bases in terms of strength, skill, and coordination and , and mobility to like always working for full range of motion. Um,
Speaker 4: 27:09
I think , um, yeah, I think the , uh, like a good perspective for folks who are listening to this to take away from it is have a look at what, like how you move and what your deficiencies are. And that is also relative to what your training experience has been or is. Um, and you might be like, man, I’m, yeah, I’m really into like heavy barbell stuff. Like I’ve been dead lifting for years and I do feel really tight. And when I’m on the mat, I have a really hard time getting into a lot of these positions that, you know, the coach is showing us, right. That, you know, you should take away. Maybe I’m going to back off the barbell stuff for a little while and focus on body, weight, strength, and the mobility work that you guys putting out, because they’re the things that are gonna make the most dramatic changes to where you are and help to round out your physicality. On the flip side, you might be the kind of person that’s like, I’m super mobile. I can get into any position. Uh, I have a hard time generating force. Like I don’t feel, I don’t feel like a strong person. Uh , you know, maybe, maybe, you know, you want to put on a bit more muscle mass. You’re like, I wouldn’t mind getting a bit thicker, like a bit heavier. That was one pro for barbell strength training. It does thicken your body because of that load. Right? Um, thickens your bones, thickens your trunk, thickens the muscles along the spine, and this is dense dense . And this, this stuff is important, right? For a sport where people are trying to crank on your spine , um, your joints up. You might, yeah. You might think, you know what, I’m going to get some more of this linear intensity in my life. I’m going to get a day, a couple of days where I’m really focusing on loading it up and getting heavy and, you know, focusing more on the barbell stuff. And I mean , w w we haven’t got a barbell specific program in Bulletproof yet we will down the track. Yes . Um, but you know, it’s, it’s really is like the , the, the takeaway should be okay, where am I at? What do I need? Okay, cool. Well, I can, I can round out my physicality by doing a little bit more of that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: 29:06
And what I, yeah, exactly. I mean, the way I would phrase that is what is the key to unlock your ability in jujitsu ? So for some of you, it might be, I need to get stronger. Cause I’m, I’m getting squashed. And, and even though I can move, well, I can’t affect change on my partner. Whereas you get other people who are very strong and sure. They could maybe pick up their partner and ragdoll them because they can, they can affect change on their partner, but they actually don’t have a lot of good body control, so they can’t move themselves well. And so yeah, for, to be able to identify that, and maybe you don’t know, so then you need to ask you, maybe ask your coach or ask a training partner. And I mean, this is just, if it’s the coach that taught you how to do the pushups , that guy. Hey, Hey Lee , easy down, easy down movement. Naughty . Not all of us know how to do it or Patel special moves. Okay. Because there’s plenty of coaches out there have amazing digits who have no idea about other stuff to push up, bro. Yeah. Look, Hey man. The way you do a pushups . Tough man. No , no , I totally , yeah.
Speaker 2: 30:14
Yeah, no, it’s cool to my shoe on anyone . But the reason why we
Speaker 3: 30:18
Have this stand guys is because if we say, oh, no, that’s just fine. Keep doing crappy reps. Then you never get better. Nothing changes and no one’s holding you to account. And sometimes you have to, and Joe does this for me all the time. Anytime I’m like struggling at something , uh , generally it will be afforded fault , uh, or anything movement regarding
Speaker 2: 30:42
Joel go forward. Fold is like, fine. Joe will say to me, this
Speaker 3: 30:45
Is a classic line who go, that’s you right there, bro.
Speaker 2: 30:49
Like that moment of you sucking
Speaker 3: 30:52
And just struggling with why you’re not good. You’ll say no, that’s
Speaker 4: 30:56
Where you belong because that’s who you are sucking
Speaker 2: 30:58
Right now. Thanks man. Really appreciate it . That’s the best. Thanks coach. Um, but for
Speaker 3: 31:05
You guys, if you are unsure , uh, you know, you can always contact us if you’re doing a move and you’re not sure you needed assessed either get your friend , your partner, somebody, or just set your phone up very easy, set it up, record yourself, and you can either send it to us directly or post it on our community page, which is Bulletproof for BJ community on Facebook. That’s what it’s there for. We want to give you help. Uh, we want to be as useful to you guys as we can. So it’s not a problem for you to reach out to us. And even if you’re doing well, but you don’t know what the next step is, we can guide you in that way a hundred. So thanks for your time today, guys. Uh, now I want to give a quick shout out to , uh, all our friends in Maidenhead England. Oh. And then , uh, also all our crew out in Iowa. Oh yeah. We got that international crew now. So we , we had a little look at the stats and , and we really appreciate you guys. Listen to us. It’s nationally. We’ve got love for you. Hopefully you can decode our accents.
Speaker 4: 32:10
Yes. Now you guys are legends. Thank you. Thank you for supporting the show from afar. And thanks to everybody out there
Speaker 3: 32:16
For tuning in the response has been amazing, even though we’re just kind of, we’re just coming up for the kind of two months, three month mark on this thing. Uh, we had a lot of people tune in all around the world, so we are exceptionally grateful for that. And the only thing that we ask is if you have enjoyed anything, we’ve talked about, share it or send it to a friend who you think might benefit a Jet’s mate who might be a bit stiff immobile, or be too linear. And maybe they need to hear this information. Yeah,
Speaker 4: 32:43
Yeah. Help get the word out there. But , um, yeah, that’s, that’s huge. We really do appreciate the support and uh, we hope that we can keep this thing gone indefinitely till we die. Think about that. Oh God
Speaker 3: 32:56
Contemplating my mortality. Well, it won’t be for all. I might have to run this show. I mean, Joe is definitely gonna die before me cause I’m going to kill him. Introduce it. All right guys. Thank you so much. And uh , definitely looking forward to you guys tuning in next time. And if you have any questions or things you would like to suggest to be on the show, send us a DM, hit us up on Instagram at Bulletproof for BJJ , or you can email us [email protected] .
Speaker 4: 33:24
Thanks fam. Thanks Joe. Thanks for [inaudible] .